Thomas and Frank wrap up their season of "forgotten" superhero movies by reviewing an eclectic cult classic and a charming comic strip homage.
First, Thomas reviews "Tank Girl" (1995). Then, Frank reviews "Dick Tracy" (1990).
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(00:00) Intro
(00:39) Tank Girl (1995)
(40:52) Dick Tracy (1990)
(01:15:59) Final Scores and Wrap-Up
(01:33:17) Outro
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Tonight on Meet Your Double feature, a free spirited rebel
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fights to restore water to a post apocalyptic earth in Tank
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Girl. Then a hard nosed detective
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fights to bring down a colorful gang of criminals in Dick Tracy.
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He's a stylish superhero double feature, and it starts right
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now. Hello and welcome to Meet Your
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Double Feature, a double-blind movie review podcast.
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My name is Thomas, joined as always by my brother Frank.
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Frank, how are you? Oh.
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I'm excited we're back. Season finale we never left.
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Finale we're still. There we never left, but this is
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a bit of a hiatus for us. We have not recorded an episode
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in over a month and so I'll be honest, this all feels brand new
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to me. Yeah, How does this work?
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This is a microphone. Microphone named after
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microphone. Oh, I hate that guy.
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Anyway, that's a great question. How does this work?
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Maybe somebody listening is asking that question cause
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they've never heard our show before.
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In case you're wondering, Meet You Double Feature is a
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double-blind movie review show. We have two films to talk about
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back-to-back that neither of us had seen before recording them
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for this episode. But Frank gave me one to watch,
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and I gave him one to watch, and we're going to decide who made
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the better blind movie selection.
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I think it was me. Frank thinks it was him.
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He's incorrect. They were on the show.
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Later on in the show, we're going to talk about the movie I
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asked Frank to watch, 1990s Dick Tracy.
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And 1st, we're going to start with the film that Frank you
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selected, 1995's Tank Girl. Also of note, this is the end of
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our season about forgotten superhero films, as you can tell
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from the fact that these are barely superhero films.
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I think Dick Tracy is. Dick Tracy is Tank Girl a little
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bit more of a stretch. I would call it a comic movie
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because Tank Girl was a comic strip, not so much a superhero.
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But we didn't know that. We had not seen the film.
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That's the premise. That's the premise of the show.
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Now, Frank, before I roll in with my review, any context for
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why you asked me to watch Tank Girl?
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You know, I was trying to really get us to the outer, the outer
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edges of what constitutes a superhero slash comic book
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movie, I guess. Yep.
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And honestly, we've seen a lot of them.
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You know, this was an effort to see some forgotten superhero
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films. You know, it turns out there
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wasn't that many that we forgot. Well, we being you and I
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specifically because there are some more obscure ones that
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people would enjoy that we just watched growing up already.
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You know, like Darkman from Sam Raimi or like the Phantom.
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Like there's some famous forgotten ones that we weren't
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able to cover for the show because we don't one of us had
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already seen them. So yeah, we were kind of at Slim
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Pickens here towards the end of the season, but we did our best.
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Yeah, I think, I think we've made some varied choices which I
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like this like these are all superhero movies, hard to see a
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through line through all of them.
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Although I will with Dick Tracy, there's there's definitely some
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common elements with some previous films that I've watched
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this season, so. OK, looking forward to that.
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I do have some production notes about Tank Girl as a character
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that do tie into one of our previous films that we've
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discussed this season, so I'll start with that.
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Tank Girl, as I mentioned, was a comic strip that was adapted
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into a film in 1995. It began, I believe, in the late
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80s as sort of a counterculture. Like girl rocker character in
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the United Kingdom was made by two British dudes who are more
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well known. At least one of them is more
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well known as the person who created the artwork for the
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gorillas the band. Oh wait, so he did Tank Girl
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first? Yeah, let me pull up the name so
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that I don't look foolish. That's gorillas with AZ
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actually. What's the name of the band?
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The name of the guy? Tank Girl and the Gorillas are
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connected through their Co creator, British artist Jamie
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Hewlett. So that is a connection I was
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not expecting when I sat down to watch Tank Girl.
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Awesome, that would have been cool if there was gorillas music
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in the movie. Oh, that would have been pretty
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neat. Actually, it would have fit.
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Unfortunately that project came later, otherwise I'm sure they
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would have. Yeah.
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The other note that I had is that the origins of the comics,
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so the two creators, Hewlett and the other one whose name I
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didn't write down, Bad job doesn't.
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Matter. They're relevant.
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Hate that? Guy relevant.
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The other person? No, no, no, we'll look it up.
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British comic series created by Jamie Hewlett and Alan Martin.
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You can see why I forgot that other name, but not very
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notable. Just really going to drag this
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guy when? You.
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Remember his name? You're like freaking boring name
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guy over here. We'll cut that out so he looks
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smart. Jamie Hewlett and Alan Martin
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created Tank Girl, I think when they were both still in college.
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The reason that the name Tank Girl came about, according to
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the Wikipedia article at least, is that there was sort of a
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running bit between Hewlett and some of the people in the band
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he was in at the time, where they were just adding Girl to
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the end of every character that they made-up.
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And it says it was because they had just seen the 1980s
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Supergirl movie. Whoa, Episode one.
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Yeah. So I guess they saw Supergirl
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probably the only ones and then just kept doing like Blank Girl
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as like a bit. And so then when they created
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Tank Girl, that's why she became Tank Girl.
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Isn't that crazy? They watched that movie in the
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80s and then nobody saw it again until this year when I watched
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it. When you watched it and we
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talked about it on the show, Yep, we're the only.
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Watched it in between. So anyway, that was my that was
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my long winded connection back to a superhero movie proper.
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But I did think that was kind of funny.
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Yeah, that's cool. I mean, it's connected to one we
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already saw. There you go.
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Can't be forgotten, the guy from the gorillas has seen it.
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Guy who did the artwork for the He's not a member of the band
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though, is he? No, I think it's just just the
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art. But I mean, that's it's kind of
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like a really crucial part of that band's aesthetic.
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More so than most, yeah. Yeah, who cares about the music?
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Who cares? Remember the monkey?
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He's a gorilla actually, with AZ.
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Oh, it's a good point. Anyway, that's my like
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production background on Tank Girl.
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It was a successful comic in the late 80s.
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It was like a counterculture icon.
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The comic itself was not really like a traditional narrative
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story. It was a very zany like
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surrealistic comic strip that didn't really follow any defined
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logic but kind of had that like grungy riot girl art style.
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So really, really easy to translate into a feature film.
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Oh yeah, certainly. So it's not as if it was a
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horrible idea that didn't work and was a total flop.
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You know, I will say though, real quick, I, I actually feel
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like stuff like that typically is something that would be great
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to adapt into another medium because it is so loose.
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You know, I, I feel like there's some, I, I know some people
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really liked maybe the first season of like the Last of Us TV
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show, but from what I've heard, people have fallen off on the
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second season. And I've just always thought I'm
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like, what a bad thing to adapt though, because it's already a
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story that's been told in such a cinematic way, like through the
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game, through the original. And so it's like, if you're
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going to adapt something, I feel like there should be some
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purpose or intentionality behind the adaptation because it is
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going to inherently be something different.
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But I feel like if you have something that's just loose and
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kind of a kinetic energy idea and imagery, you can kind of do
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whatever you want with that really, which I think would be a
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fun jumping off point for an adaptation.
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But that's a good point. I think on paper there's no
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reason this couldn't have turned into a good movie 'cause just
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like you said, all you need is the aesthetic.
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And then you can kind of use that as an opportunity to create
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like a core narrative out of it 'cause it still had characters
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in a setting it just was not. It didn't really bother with the
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traditional narrative structure in most of the comics.
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Tank Girl also went on a hiatus after some point in the 90s and
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then came back in like the 20 tens for a while.
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So it's really only had a couple of short runs.
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And I think there's there's still more to be done.
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I think even now there's probably you could make Tank
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Girl again now and it would probably have a better chance of
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working than it did in 95. Like a movie?
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You mean like a movie adaptation of it?
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Because I do think that what we got in the 90s, I'll say right
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off the bat, classic movie adaptation problem, the studio
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got involved. That's like the overarching
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problem with the movie is that the director and the 2 original
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comic creators both like have all gone on record saying like
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this movie got taken out of our hands in post production.
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They made a bunch of changes, they censored it a lot, and the
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end result was not what we wanted to make.
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Yeah, tale as old as time. Tale as old as time as Tank
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Girl. She have a tank.
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She actually have a tank. Yes, so the premise of Tank Girl
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is that she lives in a tank in like a post apocalyptic earth
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and drives it around. And we do get to that point in
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the movie, but at the beginning she is not.
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She doesn't have her tank until like the second act.
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Oh, so it's like a surf monkey situation again?
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It's a surf monkey situation, but she does get it long before
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the end of the movie, so that's good.
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OK, cool, cool. What's she doing before she's?
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That's what she lives like. Why'd they call her?
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Was she just called Girl at the beginning?
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OK so before I launch into the actual plot of the movie Tank
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Girl, I would have never guessed this would come up.
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But I honestly have to give a content warning for this movie
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and even the discussion because Tank Girl.
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The movie features many, many scenes, especially in the first
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half, of people threatening sexual violence against women
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and at least one against a child, and none of it is handled
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with enough tact to be like, not uncomfortable to watch.
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It's a huge part of the discussion.
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And I think a lot of the movie was trying to be about a lot of
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like, feminist ideas. And there's been a lot of stuff
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written about it since about whether it's truly a feminist
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film or almost like just appropriated the aesthetics of
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feminist filmmaking. It's a lot.
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It's like weirdly heavy despite having such a goofy premise.
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So just wanted to forewarn with that before we actually get into
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the Plot Summary at all. Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, I, I don't know if it made it in the episode, but that
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there's, there's a scene like that in Supergirl as well.
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And it's like upsetting and like comically stupid in that movie
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too 'cause she has superpowers and she keeps fending these
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people off, but then they still persist.
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It's. Like.
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That doesn't even make sense. It's upsetting, and I think in
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Tank Girl it's intended to be upsetting, but it does tip the
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tone of the movie over into being like kind of miserable at
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the beginning because when the story launches, it's set in the
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future. I think it's like post
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apocalyptic Earth. And there's actually a really
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funny line at the beginning because Tank Girl herself,
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played by Lori Petty, is narrating the opening and she
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just says it's 2033, the world is screwed now.
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I was like, Yep, Correct. Yeah.
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I mean. Screwed sooner than that, but.
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Sooner than that. It didn't even take that long,
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Tank Girl, but thank you. And she explains that it's a
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post apocalypse specifically because it like stopped raining.
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There's been no water in like 11 or 12 years.
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Most of the world is a desert. The only people who have water
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is this big evil mega corporation that they just call
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water in power because they have all of the remaining natural
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resources. They're hoarding them and
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essentially trying to rule the world by killing or enslaving
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anybody who's trying to live out in the desert by themselves.
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Yeah, none of that can ever happen.
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None of that could ever happen. Water scarcity?
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Never heard of it. Never.
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Heard of it, don't want to talk about it, it scares me.
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Don't stop bringing it up, Tank Girl.
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So that is our premise. Tank Girl lives in like a little
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commune out in the desert. There's this kind of neat set
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that they have set up in the first act where it's like a
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house, like a three story old looking house that's like half
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covered up by the sand, like it's like half submerged into
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this big sand dune. And so in order to still have a
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walkway to get up to, like the top floor, they built this big
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curved wooden ramp that looks like the entrance to Helms Deep.
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Cool, I like that. Is this this a practical set
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we're talking about here? There is some fun practical sets
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and also some cute little miniatures of like the evil
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headquarters and and some of the action stuff.
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So production design good enough, kind of interesting,
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very like zany 90s look to the whole thing. 90's the 90s were
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so zany. 90s were so zany there was no water I guess.
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They said surge, everybody was just drinking surge non-stop.
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Surge. That's true.
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Frank, I might have talked to you about this before, but there
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is a website you can find online of an Internet movement of
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people trying to make, I think Coca-Cola bring back Surge.
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And it's like the most pathetic thing I've ever seen because the
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language they use is not like bring back Surge because the
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fans love it. They're trying to like speak
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corporate. They're like Surge is a
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marketable commercial entity for Coca-Cola Company.
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Oh, I'm glad you called it a movement, you know, because it's
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like a really important thing that we should be focusing on.
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I don't want to think about the the water shortage or any other
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real. Problems.
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Where's the surge? I mean, listen, what do you call
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6 people and a website if not a movement?
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It's a band. It's a band.
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Anyway, so Tank Girl starts. Tank Girl lives in a commune
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with like some of her friends and these little kids who are
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just kind of doing their best to to make it in a world that
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doesn't have any water. The other faction in the world
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that they have to worry about is this group that they call the
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Rippers who according to the opening narration are like flesh
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eating monsters and kind of a classic like post apocalypse
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trope if it kind of felt like they were talking about the the
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reavers from from Firefly if you remember that.
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I was picturing like the psychos from Borderlands but.
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Same thing. Yep, just like crazy cannibal
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monster people living out in the desert.
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So those are the two groups that our main cast has to worry
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about. They have to deal with the
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rippers and they have to deal with Water and Power, who are
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just the evil organization. Almost immediately, Water and
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Power shows up and kills all of Tank Girl's friends and kills
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her boyfriend and kills her pet ox that she was riding around on
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and kidnaps the little girl that she was friends with and kidnaps
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Tank Girl. And this is where we get like
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our three or four scenes in a row of people threatening sexual
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violence against Tank Girl. So huge bummer in the first like
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10 minutes of the movie. 1st 10 minutes, all that happens.
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It's almost instantly we get a short scene of her coming across
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these people who got killed by rippers and like taking the
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water supplies that have been left behind while doing this
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narration that I swear was all added in post and was not
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intended to be there because it's very like it kind of
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clashes with what's on screen. Like visually Tank Girl is a
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silly movie, but trying to play it like the world they live in
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is kind of like sad and dangerous.
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But Lori Petty's narration is like, she's putting on this
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voice that makes her sound like she's 12 years old, and she's
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just like, that's me. I'm Tank Girl.
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Probably wondering how I got here.
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How did I make it through life without surge?
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Oh my gosh. Well.
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It can only go up from here. You just get all the sad stuff
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out of the way right at the beginning.
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Dude, we don't get the sad stuff out of the way for the first
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like hour of the movie. It's so miserable.
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This is supposed to be a fun movie.
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I thought this was aimed at like kids when I when I turned it on,
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but instead it's like, no, no, no, we're going to do kidnap,
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sexual violence, threats, and then just like literal torture
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for multiple scenes in a row. What?
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So like our characters don't get to even have like a good time at
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all in the beginning. It's just straight into just
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bad, bad times, bad times at Ridgemont High for the rest of
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the movie. That's not even what that's
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called. Yeah, pretty much.
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I think there's like 1 scene where she's like flirting with
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her boyfriend and talking to this kid that she knows and they
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try to establish that Tank Girl herself is really clinging on to
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like old pop culture artifacts that she's collected in the form
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of like old junk. So she has like like pin up
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calendars and props and just things that she came across in
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the desert. And so she tries to make like
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pop culture references that don't even really make sense
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because she's not very old and the world has been messed up for
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a long time at this point. It's kind of like when the genie
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shows up in Aladdin and starts talking about like modern pop
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culture stuff and it's like, excuse me?
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Yeah, but that that works in Aladdin.
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It works in Aladdin. It kind of works in Tank Girl,
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but she seems to know more than makes sense.
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Like she makes a joke at one point about like, oh, I got to
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get home to watch Baywatch. And it's like, do you even
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really know what ATV is like? How long have things been this
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messed up? You're like 20 years old.
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Wasn't this also a thing with like Star Lord in Guardians of
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the Galaxy? He was making like a lot of
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references to like 80s culture even though you left earth when
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he was like 9 years old. So exactly it's it's kind of on
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par with that where like it's harkening to something for the
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viewer's sake, even though the character maybe wouldn't
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remember a lot of this stuff. And that makes sense in the
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comic strip because I think Tank Girl has a bit of a meta
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narrative quality in that where she can like wink to camera a
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little more directly. She doesn't do that in the movie
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because she's busy suffering. Oh, she doesn't do like the Zack
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Morris like. She does not call a time out.
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And yeah, like Zack Morris, she just gets kidnapped and there
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her small child friend is kidnapped, and then she
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interacts with the bad guy played by Malcolm McDowell.
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So we got a real actor in the movie Lookout.
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Lookout. Wait, who's playing Tank Girl?
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Oh, Tank Girl's Lori Petty, who you might remember as one of the
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leads in Point Break, the Keanu Reeves action movie.
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She was the female lead in that. Oh, OK.
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Yeah, I like that you had to clarify what point break was.
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Like I I wouldn't know that. The audience might not know.
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We don't know. Oh.
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Oh, I forgot about them, Yeah. There's other people here, so
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yes, if you've seen Point Break audience then she is the female
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lead from that opposite Keanu Reeves and the late Patrick
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Swayze. Swayze.
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Yeah, the Swayze didn't we talk a lot about Swayze recently?
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Was that. No, that was in one of our.
00:19:20
Oh, that was in our our ranking every movie ever made.
00:19:23
Yeah, we we went on and on about Roadhouse and how much we all
00:19:25
love Patrick Swayze. So check that out if you have
00:19:27
not already to hear more about the sways man.
00:19:29
In the meantime, back to Lori Petty.
00:19:32
So I don't even know how to properly summarize a lot of this
00:19:35
because it happens kind of quickly.
00:19:37
She gets abducted. She gets brought back to the
00:19:39
Water and Power headquarters, which is like a fully
00:19:41
functioning building that has all this stuff in it because
00:19:43
they've hoarded all the resources left on Earth.
00:19:46
Malcolm McDowell tries to hire her to work for him because she
00:19:49
showed that she's fairly capable.
00:19:51
She like, stole somebody's gun and killed a lot of his soldiers
00:19:54
while they were attacking. So he's like, just come work for
00:19:56
me. And she says no because she's
00:19:59
very rebellious. And basically her whole
00:20:02
character is that she just like, refuses to be subjugated by all
00:20:04
these evil men. Like, even when some of them are
00:20:08
like, threatening to assault her, like, she just always
00:20:11
throws it back in their face by being like, hypersexual towards
00:20:14
them. And then when Malcolm McDowell
00:20:15
threatens physical violence against her, she just like,
00:20:18
never. Let's them see it affect her.
00:20:20
She's just always cracking jokes.
00:20:22
That's like the core of the character in the movie is like,
00:20:25
you can't, you can't bring me down.
00:20:28
You know, the man can't hold me back.
00:20:30
But for the audience's sake, we just have to watch them try for
00:20:34
like 20 minutes and it's a huge bummer.
00:20:37
What an odd narrative pacing choice.
00:20:41
I'm so curious as to like where the movie goes from there.
00:20:43
When you when you are starting at such a low point.
00:20:46
Strange. It's real.
00:20:47
Like bottom of the second act like low point storytelling and
00:20:51
it's like the very first thing that happens.
00:20:54
Tank Girl never gets a chance to really even establish what she
00:20:58
wants in the context of this story.
00:21:00
Right. That's what I was thinking.
00:21:01
It's like what, what journey is she on when she's immediately
00:21:04
suffering? And like, typically for a movie
00:21:06
like this, you would want to show how capable she is in like
00:21:09
certain situations, you know, So it's like maybe have like that
00:21:13
first act action sequence where she's like, successful before
00:21:17
things start to go poorly for her because it's like, we're
00:21:20
supposed to be rooting for this character.
00:21:22
This is the problem with the movie, like among many, is that
00:21:25
you have no reason to really care about her, aside from the
00:21:28
fact that we obviously don't like seeing anybody put through
00:21:30
these like, horrible situations. Because we don't know her, we
00:21:32
don't know anything about her. And her character never shows
00:21:37
any vulnerability even like in private so that the audience
00:21:40
could see that she's like putting on a front to to stick
00:21:43
it to the evil characters. She's just always on.
00:21:46
She's always like in character as this like unflappable, you
00:21:51
know, rebellious hero character. So the whole time I'm just like,
00:21:54
all right, Tank Girl seems fine with all of this torture stuff.
00:21:56
I'm not I'm sad. Yeah, she's just like, don't
00:21:59
have a cow, man like. Pretty much it it it'd be like
00:22:05
if you tried to like water board, Bart Simpson.
00:22:07
That's like what this movie feels like.
00:22:10
That's a good pull quote for the movie.
00:22:13
You tried to water board Bart Simpson.
00:22:19
So that's, that's like the whole first act.
00:22:21
For some reason, like, Malcolm McDowell becomes fixated on this
00:22:24
idea that he wants to, like, break her spirit because she's,
00:22:26
she shows so much resistance to it.
00:22:29
And it even, it goes so specific, like he locks her in
00:22:31
like, a freezer for a while and then comes together and it's
00:22:34
like, you're going to work for me now.
00:22:35
And then she, like, spits in his face, which is supposed to be,
00:22:38
like, doubly insulting because there's so much water scarcity.
00:22:42
It's like Dune. She's like, wasting her
00:22:43
moisture. Yeah.
00:22:45
Yeah. And then her second thing is so
00:22:49
bizarre. He sticks her in a giant metal
00:22:52
pipe that he explains as it goes further down and gets smaller
00:22:55
and smaller. So you eventually get stuck and
00:22:58
he's just like, is it that scary if you're claustrophobic?
00:23:01
And then so he like, puts her in there for like several days and
00:23:04
then when he takes her back out, he's like, just say it.
00:23:06
Just say I won. Just say I, I broke you.
00:23:08
And she never does. That's like the whole dynamic
00:23:10
for her, and for why he becomes so obsessed as the villain in
00:23:14
the movie, is that she just won't give him the satisfaction
00:23:16
no matter how badly he treats her.
00:23:19
Sounds like episode of Star Trek The Next Generation where Picard
00:23:24
is being tortured. OK, let's dig into this.
00:23:27
That sounds more fun. No, hang on, the pipe thing does
00:23:31
sound horrifying though. I wouldn't want it.
00:23:33
Just just like, couldn't you just stay in the part of the
00:23:36
pipe where it's bigger though? Like.
00:23:37
Well, they just like, it's too, too slick.
00:23:39
They just like throw her down the pipe and she gets stuck.
00:23:42
Yeah, that sounds awful. I've always been scared of
00:23:44
getting stuck in like one of those like water park slides,
00:23:47
you know? Oh, yeah.
00:23:48
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a horrible thought, isn't
00:23:51
it? See, this is this is the fun
00:23:52
1990s sci-fi movie Tank Girl. It's just like, man, that would
00:23:55
be a horrible way to die. And it's like we're 20 minutes
00:23:57
in. I haven't even started in on my
00:23:59
popcorn. And I'm just like, well.
00:24:02
Oh, I don't want this. I'm going to die someday.
00:24:11
Chicago Tribune says I don't want this.
00:24:13
I'm going to die someday. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:24:20
So eventually we meet another character called Jet.
00:24:25
I think in the comic she's called Jet Girl because again,
00:24:28
we're still doing the Supergirl thing.
00:24:29
In the movie they just called her Jet.
00:24:31
She is another prisoner of water and power who has like technical
00:24:35
know how. And so they have her in this
00:24:37
hangar fixing their like, helicopters and planes and
00:24:40
stuff. And she, as the other woman in
00:24:43
the movie, is also constantly being molested by a strange man.
00:24:48
They have multiple scenes of this soldier guy who just keeps
00:24:51
saying like, you know, I'm giving you all these special
00:24:53
privileges because you're smart. You know, maybe you got to make
00:24:56
it worth my while or I'll take it all away.
00:24:59
And I, I kid you not, despite the literal post apocalypse
00:25:02
happening, you know how Tank Girl gets this guy to leave her
00:25:04
alone? She goes up to Jet and kisses
00:25:08
Jet herself. And the guy's homophobia is so
00:25:12
strong that it repels him and he leaves.
00:25:16
What? Yeah, he's, he's busy trying to
00:25:20
molest this woman, and another woman comes up and kisses that
00:25:23
woman and he's too disgusted and so he has to go home.
00:25:28
This. Is not at all what I thought
00:25:29
this movie was going. To be it's not, it's such a
00:25:33
bummer. The whole movie is a bummer
00:25:36
until the second-half and then it becomes like a can't be
00:25:39
sci-fi movie. Like so she lives in a tank,
00:25:44
right? Like.
00:25:45
Eventually she steals a tank. She doesn't even know how to
00:25:47
drive it at the beginning, but her and Jet eventually escape
00:25:52
and then Jet has a plane and Tank Girl has a tank.
00:25:55
OK, see. Like, why is that not where the
00:25:57
movie starts? Why do we not start there?
00:26:01
Like, I don't know. That's fun.
00:26:03
Now we're now we're in the territory of fun where you can
00:26:06
go to a movie and be entertained.
00:26:09
Much like how on our show we try to stay in that territory of fun
00:26:12
rather than this ravine of misery.
00:26:17
OK, so they get their they get their cool tank and jet and
00:26:21
they're like, wow, how So they wait, they call themselves that
00:26:26
after they get those things or that was like already their
00:26:29
name. And they're like, oh, this is
00:26:30
convenient. Like now.
00:26:31
I'm Jack. I'm so glad I found a tank
00:26:33
because I've been calling myself Tank Girl this whole time and
00:26:34
all I had were shoes. No, she's they have different
00:26:39
names. They call Tank Girl Rebecca and
00:26:42
Jet, they just called Jet. So I think that one's more just
00:26:44
a coincidence. But then I think at one point
00:26:48
Tank Girl in the tanks is like, I'm Tank Girl.
00:26:51
And so she Dons the the title. It's a superhero origin story.
00:26:54
You know, once you get the tank she get hit by a radioactive
00:26:57
tank. Yeah, I was going to say maybe
00:27:00
Girl's her last name. Like before she was Rebecca
00:27:02
Girl. And now?
00:27:03
Rebecca Girl and Now. She's tank girl.
00:27:06
And when they threw her down the torture pipe, she was like, what
00:27:08
am I, pipe girl? Yeah.
00:27:13
That's how the movie feels. Like they do this really
00:27:16
upsetting torture scene. And then her attempt to rebuke
00:27:18
it is always so like, gotcha. And it's like, you didn't get
00:27:21
them. You can't.
00:27:23
Like. OK.
00:27:24
The movie, I think, is trying to be feminist filmmaking because
00:27:29
it's been written about in a lot of, like, books and articles
00:27:31
about its role in, like, feminist film of the 90s.
00:27:34
And there are certain things it does that show that it was
00:27:37
leaning that way because despite all of the like, you know, vibes
00:27:41
of the whole thing, there's no actual explicit content shown on
00:27:45
screen. Tank Girl as a character is not
00:27:47
shot in like a suggestive or like, objectifying manner.
00:27:51
And I do think a lot of the story is supposed to be about
00:27:53
her, like taking the power back in this deeply problematic
00:27:58
patriarchal society that she lives in in the post apocalypse.
00:28:02
But the dynamic of it is too sinister for her, just like
00:28:06
being sassy to feel like taking the power back, you know what I
00:28:09
mean? Yeah, totally.
00:28:11
She can't just be like crying and it's like sobbing and be
00:28:15
like cowabunga like. Like, that's me.
00:28:20
That was me watching. Like, was the movie written or
00:28:28
directed by a woman too? Or is it like, you know, are
00:28:31
there any like women behind the scenes in the making of the
00:28:34
film? Because I feel like that would
00:28:36
be an important distinction as well.
00:28:37
Good question. The original Tank Girl comic
00:28:39
series was written by two men. The film was directed by a
00:28:42
woman. Although she's one of the ones
00:28:45
who said that like the story got taken out of her hands and there
00:28:47
was a lot of edits made. And I do think that some of what
00:28:52
was cut, which I'll get into does suggest that some of the
00:28:55
more like feminist elements of the visuals were were what was
00:28:59
removed. Like there was things done
00:29:01
trying to think of an example, like there's all this stuff
00:29:05
about women being abused in the movie, but then they also try to
00:29:08
do things to flip the script with Tank Girl because she
00:29:10
herself is like a very hypersexual character.
00:29:12
She's just like constantly making sexual references to
00:29:14
everybody else. And like, I think her house at
00:29:17
the beginning, she was supposed to have like a room full of sex
00:29:21
toys, like as a visual gag. And they, like, cut that out
00:29:24
because they were like, that's like, that makes people
00:29:27
uncomfortable. And it's like, oh, OK, like,
00:29:29
that's uncomfortable. Yeah.
00:29:31
Which which people does that make you?
00:29:32
Does that make you uncomfortable?
00:29:34
Exactly Male. Studio hits, male studio hits.
00:29:37
Or like there was a scene that I think I read was actually
00:29:40
present in the theatrical release but was cut in every
00:29:42
subsequent release, including what I watched.
00:29:45
Where I'm jumping ahead a bit. Tank Girl ends up with a mutant
00:29:50
kangaroo boyfriend who is half man half kangaroo.
00:29:55
I was going to say, when does the mutant kangaroo?
00:29:56
Boyfriend show up, boyfriend show up.
00:29:59
And there's a scene in the original cut of the movie that's
00:30:01
like them in bed together after having had sex.
00:30:03
And supposedly the company that built all of these very
00:30:07
impressive like kangaroo mask prosthetics had built like an
00:30:11
oversized like kangaroo penis is like a joke that was supposed to
00:30:14
be visible during that scene. And they made them cut that too.
00:30:18
But it was in the theatrical cut.
00:30:20
It was supposedly in the theatrical cut, but a lot of the
00:30:23
things that the studio made the director cut out of the film
00:30:26
were like phallic imagery done to sort of trivialize men, you
00:30:31
know what I mean? And like the types of things
00:30:32
where, if they were still present, would maybe aid in
00:30:35
making the movie feel more like counterculturally feminist.
00:30:38
And instead it's like, cut out all the parts that make men look
00:30:41
silly and leave in all the parts about women getting hurt.
00:30:43
And then you can release the movie and it's like, oh.
00:30:46
Yeah. I mean, I mean, I'm at least
00:30:47
starting to see the, like, overall artistic intention of
00:30:51
the film now. Like, yeah, before it was, it
00:30:55
was heavily altered. Yeah, I will say that as far as
00:30:59
I could tell, I think even if this movie had been released in
00:31:02
the format that the original authors intended, it still would
00:31:06
not have been very good because these story structure elements
00:31:08
are like still poorly arranged. It's it's too much suffering for
00:31:13
a character we don't know anything about.
00:31:15
And then ultimately the confidence of the other
00:31:16
characters get just isn't severe enough to feel like cathartic.
00:31:21
Like you can tell a story about something really upsetting or
00:31:24
serious and still make the audience feel like it was worth
00:31:28
experiencing because it kind of meant something.
00:31:31
Or like was trying to really elucidate something important
00:31:34
that happens in the real world and Tank Girl just does not earn
00:31:38
the right to cover such messed up stuff in what is seen on
00:31:41
screen. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what
00:31:45
it sounds like. It's like that.
00:31:47
That's the thing that's most baffling or confusing to me.
00:31:50
Is that just that it was structured in such a way.
00:31:53
Yeah, I, I just don't understand.
00:31:54
I mean, I, I guess I again, like if that is the point they're
00:31:59
trying to drive home, if that's the thing they're trying to
00:32:01
illustrate right away is like what this woman is going through
00:32:04
in this world. I still think there's another
00:32:07
way to do that in a way that brings the audience in.
00:32:12
You know, you have to, you have to lure the audience in to, to
00:32:14
tell this story, I think. I agree, I think even as even
00:32:20
the parts of the audience that would naturally be sympathetic
00:32:22
to everything the authors are talking about, like from the
00:32:25
jump, that's just not really how a movie works.
00:32:28
You're trying to take the audience on like an emotional
00:32:30
roller coaster to land them at a point where they come to the
00:32:33
conclusion you want them to have.
00:32:35
It's like inception. You have to like plant the seed,
00:32:37
but let them have the thought. Whereas Tank Girl just like
00:32:39
shoves the thought at you. And then then like halfway
00:32:42
through gets tired of doing that and is like anyway, kangaroo
00:32:45
guy. And it's like, well hold on, why
00:32:47
are we now backtracking? Cause the reason that shows up
00:32:51
is that I mentioned the Rippers are like the evil flesh eating
00:32:54
monsters. But when Tank Girl and Jet
00:32:56
finally encounter them, you find out that they are these like
00:33:00
army experiments gone wrong. And they're just these like
00:33:02
hippie monster guys who have all these like they look like
00:33:06
furries. To be honest, they all just look
00:33:07
like dog man and kangaroo man. But they're totally like nice.
00:33:12
And well, they're not nice because they all still are kind
00:33:14
of lecherous and creepy towards all the women, but they're more
00:33:17
nice. Yeah, nice.
00:33:19
Nicer than. The.
00:33:20
Other people we've seen. Yeah, if you take like, sexual
00:33:25
abuse, it's like a baseline for this world, which you, the movie
00:33:28
asks you to do, They're still the nice ones in comparison.
00:33:32
Yeah, yeah, this is reminding me of like, like I'm watching Game
00:33:36
of Thrones for the first time and that's how I feel about so
00:33:40
much of that show. I'm just like, I, I get it.
00:33:42
There's a lot of good storytelling happening here and
00:33:45
I and I see all of the like, you know, violence and attitudes
00:33:50
towards women that you're showing in this story.
00:33:52
It to illustrate a point. But that doesn't make it less
00:33:55
upsetting to see all the time, especially when you're like
00:33:58
binging a show like that. And it's like, Oh my gosh,
00:34:01
another one of these scenes. I don't need to see this again.
00:34:03
Yep. Yep, Yep, that is exactly how
00:34:06
watching Tank Girl feels. It's so bizarre how heavily they
00:34:11
double down on these elements. Like I said, I don't.
00:34:13
There's a scene. Tank Girl's little kid friend
00:34:16
gets kidnapped, and they track her down to what is shown to be
00:34:20
like a strip club. And there's this whole scene
00:34:23
where, like, they're trying to, like, send that girl away with a
00:34:26
grown man. And Tank Girl and company stop
00:34:28
this from happening. And I kid you not, the very next
00:34:31
thing that happens is they find the woman who runs the club and
00:34:34
is responsible for this heinous threat of violence against a
00:34:38
child. And they're like, how are we
00:34:40
going to pay her back? You know what Tank Girl does?
00:34:42
She makes her sing a song and then Tank Girl starts singing
00:34:45
the same song and it literally turns into a song and dance
00:34:48
number in the middle of the movie.
00:34:51
Wow. This movie is starting to sound
00:34:53
weirdly like avant-garde in a way.
00:34:55
Like it's like, was this AI mean?
00:34:58
I guess, yeah, You said it was a theatrical release, but it
00:35:01
sounds like this movie had like higher ambitions almost in terms
00:35:06
of almost being like a like an art house film.
00:35:10
Kind of I think it, it almost matches the spirit of the
00:35:14
original source material in terms of being very like
00:35:16
confrontational. But again, the edge is missing
00:35:20
from the whole thing, even in what did get filmed and kept in
00:35:23
the movie. Like you don't.
00:35:25
The other funny thing about that scene, not that anyway it's
00:35:28
especially funny is that they rescue the little kid from
00:35:30
immediate harm. They do a song and dance number.
00:35:32
Nothing bad actually happens to the people responsible for that.
00:35:36
And then in the middle of singing and dancing, they stick
00:35:38
around for too long and the water and power soldier show up
00:35:41
and they kidnap the girl again. And it's like, Tanko, that's
00:35:45
your fault. You did that.
00:35:46
You sat around literally dancing on a stage.
00:35:50
And then the kid you saved is now missing and in danger again.
00:35:53
And it's like, are we supposed to be sympathetic to that?
00:35:54
Like that was on you. That's on you.
00:35:58
That's on you. What's her name?
00:36:00
What was her original name? Rebecca.
00:36:03
Rebecca girl, that's on you. She'd.
00:36:06
Call you loser girl. So anyway, I don't story wise.
00:36:13
You don't need to know the rest man.
00:36:14
It's just they they meet they meet up with the kangaroo Bros
00:36:20
who are all like super goofy. Iced tea is in the movie.
00:36:23
Is one of these guys lawn orders iced tea?
00:36:27
They're all Kangaroos. Half of them are dogs.
00:36:30
One of them is a kangaroo. But they just say that it was
00:36:33
like an army experiment gone wrong and that the army, like,
00:36:37
tried to kill them all afterwards.
00:36:39
And then they just ran into this little, like, hippie hideout.
00:36:42
And, like, one of them's like, reciting poetry and playing the
00:36:45
saxophone. Like, it feels like somebody's
00:36:48
weird caricature of, like, hippie liberals, but they're
00:36:53
supposed to just actually be the good guy characters.
00:36:55
I'm like, oh, why are they so lame?
00:36:58
Yeah, so interesting this this movie like to what I was saying
00:37:02
earlier where you where you take like what is kind of loose
00:37:05
source material and adapt it. You know, it almost feels like a
00:37:08
like a Rorschach test of sorts that like, if you gave this
00:37:11
material to different directors, like what they would give back,
00:37:16
you know, like what type of film they would make.
00:37:19
Because there's a lot of interesting elements here to use
00:37:24
in this story. Like, I like, I like mutant
00:37:26
kangaroo boyfriend. That's just a funny sentence.
00:37:30
Like it? Just feels good to say.
00:37:33
Feels good to say like, you know, it's there's stuff they
00:37:40
can use in different thematic ways.
00:37:45
You know, it's like take take these same core elements, take
00:37:48
the the theming and just see what type of film comes out of
00:37:52
that. This just seems like and
00:37:54
unfortunate results I guess. Yeah, and I can place a lot of
00:37:58
the blame on the studio for forcing the authors to
00:38:02
compromise their vision. They're also, I haven't touched
00:38:04
on this yet, a ton of stuff in the movie was never filmed.
00:38:07
And so the entire thing is actually stitched together with
00:38:11
hand animated like comic style sequences that you would think
00:38:17
makes the movie a little more flashy and interesting.
00:38:20
But they kind of stink and they're all really short and
00:38:22
they don't properly bridge the gap between certain things that
00:38:24
were never filmed, and so it just looks bad.
00:38:27
Oh, I'm sure, because I mean, if you did that intentionally, like
00:38:31
if, you know, you planned on having animated sequences
00:38:35
throughout the film to interject at certain, you know, to kind of
00:38:39
drive home emotional beats or something, that would be
00:38:42
interesting. But when it's more of like a
00:38:44
Band-Aid to fix stuff that was supposed to be shot and is not
00:38:48
there, that just sounds sloppy. I mean, the end of the movie is
00:38:52
an animated sequence because they didn't film the end of the
00:38:55
movie. They beat Malcolm McDowell.
00:38:58
And then the whole imagery that they keep using is like, we're
00:39:02
going to break open this facility that's storing all the
00:39:05
water and just kind of let it like run over the desert and
00:39:08
like rehydrate the world. It's like, First off, the
00:39:11
drought was not water in Power's fault.
00:39:14
There's still not enough water. So these people are just going
00:39:16
to burn through all those resources immediately, and then
00:39:18
they're all going to die anyway. But the way it's depicted is a
00:39:21
cartoon sequence of like a giant ocean wave and Tank Girl and her
00:39:24
kangaroo boyfriend surfing on the wave and.
00:39:26
And then the movie just ends. Oh.
00:39:29
She's so she literally surf monkeys.
00:39:31
She does surf monkey. She surf tanks.
00:39:34
Yeah, so that's how this episode is going to end.
00:39:36
Spoilers. It's just going to be an
00:39:37
animated sequence for like the animated sequence sequence.
00:39:43
Yeah, I'm going to go to. I'm going to go to art school.
00:39:45
I'm going to learn how to draw. I'm going to make 47
00:39:49
drawings to show 6 seconds of footage.
00:39:51
Uh huh. There's going to be a
00:39:52
significant delay between the recording of this episode and
00:39:55
when it's released it. Might be 2033 by the time.
00:40:00
I did it. Still not that good, but I did
00:40:02
it. Still not that good, probably
00:40:03
not worth the effort. Tank Girl.
00:40:08
It's the final pull quotes on the box.
00:40:13
I mean, that might be it. That might be girl.
00:40:16
There's more, there's. More but like, there's not, you
00:40:19
know? Take girls sound sad.
00:40:21
I don't want to talk about sad assault.
00:40:26
That's how I felt watching it. So cowabunga, dudes.
00:40:29
We're going to go to our intermission now, and when we
00:40:32
get back, Frank's going to talk about what is hopefully,
00:40:35
hopefully a much more fun film, 1990s Dick Tracy.
00:40:42
Oh, I got nothing. Well, you got nothing.
00:40:55
All right, back now from the other side of the break.
00:40:57
Frank, we turn things over to you to hopefully save this
00:41:00
episode by talking about 1990s Dick Tracy.
00:41:04
Save her from what? I don't what's what's the
00:41:06
problem. What could you just bring
00:41:07
everybody spirits up? I feel like I'm having a cow
00:41:09
right now and I would like to no longer have a cow.
00:41:12
Don't have a cow, man. Like how Tank Girl had a cow and
00:41:16
then they shot it at the beginning anyway.
00:41:23
Let's talk about Dick. No, you told me.
00:41:29
That's what you told me. To do, I did say to do that Dick
00:41:32
Tracy is also a comic book figure more in line with those
00:41:38
like pulp action guys that we talked about like The Shadow
00:41:41
earlier in the season. But once again, maybe not really
00:41:45
a superhero, am I right? I mean I I.
00:41:47
Think these guys are superheroes?
00:41:49
This is big time the shadow. This is like, what if the shadow
00:41:53
was OK? You know, like.
00:41:57
What if the shadow was also yellow and cool?
00:42:03
Yeah, that, that is one of my notes actually about Dick Tracy,
00:42:07
Unlike the Shadow, which might come up a lot as it has all
00:42:10
season. For some reason, yeah, it's.
00:42:15
Just something we're always going to be talking about, it
00:42:17
seems. It's like, I feel like in the
00:42:20
Shadow, where we weren't really sure what his superpowers were
00:42:24
or what he was doing or what was going on.
00:42:27
Dick Tracy is very simple. It's very straightforward.
00:42:29
He's just a guy who who dresses like the guy from Curious George
00:42:34
and and has a watch that he can talk into.
00:42:39
That's it. What?
00:42:39
That's it, That's it. Who's on the other side of the
00:42:42
watch? That's the other thing, his
00:42:45
random cop buddies also have that communicator watch, but I
00:42:49
think that was what made him special back in the day.
00:42:51
I think like in the 1940s or whatever, that was all it took.
00:42:58
Back when the world had water, that was all you needed.
00:43:01
Dill had water. There was nothing else going
00:43:03
wrong in the 1940s. I'm pretty sure nothing at all.
00:43:05
Yeah. So he had a I'm OK right away.
00:43:09
I'm guessing this is like, so that they could put
00:43:11
communicators at the bottom of cereal boxes for kids, right.
00:43:15
Oh. That sounds awesome.
00:43:16
I saw a news headline just the other day that Kellogg's is
00:43:18
bringing back toys and cereal boxes.
00:43:21
Nice, that'll fix things that'll.
00:43:24
Fix everything. I was having a really bad day,
00:43:27
but if I get to the bottom of some Frosted Flakes and they put
00:43:30
a Dick Tracy communicator watch, I'm going to be like, wow,
00:43:33
what's that? No, yeah, it's just like a 2
00:43:36
liter bottle of Surge at the bottom of my Frosted Flakes.
00:43:41
If only bring back surge. I run the website by the way.
00:43:45
I know. I figured you were one of the
00:43:46
six guys. Just try to try to get the word
00:43:49
out. Yeah, man, that's it.
00:43:51
That's it. And he, like I said, he's not
00:43:53
even the only one that hasn't like his friends have them too.
00:43:56
That's crazy. So his only differentiating
00:44:00
factor is he has a big yellow coat.
00:44:02
And a gun, I guess he does a gun.
00:44:04
I have a gun. But he's just like a cop.
00:44:07
He's just a cop. Like he's like cool Mr.
00:44:10
Policeman. Like he's a detective.
00:44:13
I guess he's a detective. That's why he doesn't dress like
00:44:15
a regular cop. That's where he wears yellow.
00:44:17
He's a detective, OK, Yeah. People love cops.
00:44:21
I feel like that we should remake this now.
00:44:23
People love cops. Love it the TV show.
00:44:30
OK, so Dick Tracy 1990, the characters from the 40s, do you
00:44:34
did you look up much about like his origin or like what he was
00:44:38
he mostly just a comic book character or did he do like ATV
00:44:40
show at some point? There was like previous Dick
00:44:44
Tracy films. I think they were like shorts.
00:44:47
They were like 30 minute films maybe, but they they were
00:44:50
released in the 1940s RKO Pictures released I think like 6
00:44:57
Dick Tracy like movies. And I'm sure there have been
00:45:02
other adaptations 'cause this is a character name.
00:45:04
I've heard enough. I I guess like it's a
00:45:09
recognizable character. I think people would see him and
00:45:13
kind of know who it is, but he's definitely it's like they they
00:45:20
should do an Avengers movie really that's just like all
00:45:23
these like similar characters. You know where it's like Dick
00:45:25
Tracy, the Shadow Green Hornet, Dark Wing Duck as I.
00:45:31
Mentioned just a Humphrey Bogart just to balance things out.
00:45:35
He's kind of there. You're like, I'm not really sure
00:45:37
you belong here, but you can come too.
00:45:39
And then Batman honestly is just the best version of this type of
00:45:45
character. I, I, I think they just kind of
00:45:49
perfected the formula with Batman.
00:45:52
And that's why he's so popular, because it's a fun environment.
00:45:57
It's a fun setting. This like the shadow is, you
00:46:00
know, it's set, I believe in the 40s.
00:46:03
And to follow up on him just kind of being a discount Batman
00:46:08
in a way. Dick Tracy has like a rogue
00:46:10
gallery and they're just a bunch of weirdos.
00:46:18
Like there's they're, they're all like mobster, like gangster
00:46:22
guys, you know, And I'm like, you know, like a Batman where
00:46:27
it's like Clayface turns into clay.
00:46:30
And we got Riddler. You know, it's like this is we
00:46:32
got lips over here because he's got weird lips.
00:46:35
And this guy, that's literally his name.
00:46:38
And this guy over here is flat top because his head is flat on
00:46:42
top. Oh.
00:46:42
My God, I'm just picturing this turning.
00:46:44
It's like Dick Tracy, like berates people with like
00:46:47
deformities and handicaps and them just being like, stop
00:46:49
giving those people those names. I was thinking that too.
00:46:53
I'm like, but everyone calls them this like to their face.
00:46:56
They like people go up to lips and they're like, hey, lips.
00:46:58
And it's like, don't, I mean, you don't got to like, I'm sure.
00:47:02
Was he born with that name? Like does he like that because.
00:47:06
He like that. Yeah.
00:47:07
Like if he went up to remember in in Steel, his, his partner
00:47:11
Sparky ended up having to use a wheelchair.
00:47:12
And like, Dick Tracy walks over and he's like, you must be.
00:47:14
And they're like no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:47:18
Slow down. DT Well, I just thought because
00:47:19
that's what I see and that's all I can ascribe to them is how
00:47:22
they look. Put the watch away, Dick Tracy.
00:47:28
I mean, it's the 1940s, so Dick Tracy just being just being an
00:47:32
old bigot would be pretty funny, honest.
00:47:34
Pretty accurate, yeah. Maybe that's why all these guys
00:47:36
don't like him. He's like stop calling me that,
00:47:38
but I don't know. And they all it's crazy
00:47:42
prosthetics in this movie too, like all of these guys are
00:47:45
wearing super exaggerated like prosthetic make up to to
00:47:50
highlight these features. The whole the whole film has a
00:47:54
very strong aesthetic vibe that they committed to.
00:47:59
It's I was and it's very clear watching the movie, but was very
00:48:04
interesting after the fact too, to kind of look at the
00:48:06
production ideology that that went into the film because they
00:48:11
were very committed, I should say.
00:48:13
Actually the film stars Warren Beatty as Dick Tracy.
00:48:18
He also directed the movie and produced it.
00:48:22
So huge part in this film. Like it was it was a film that
00:48:27
was in sort of a development of health for a really long time
00:48:31
and kind of bounced around different directors, like it was
00:48:35
going to be in the hands of different people.
00:48:36
I think at one point Spielberg was going to make a Dick Tracy
00:48:38
movie. How interesting.
00:48:41
I I think they got pretty far along with John Landis was going
00:48:47
to direct, but then he killed some people, so.
00:48:50
He did. Let's not elaborate on that at
00:48:52
all. And they're like.
00:48:56
It's OK, he killed them by negligence.
00:48:59
Not it was, just it was. Just an accident that was his
00:49:02
fault. Don't have a cow about it.
00:49:06
We've been. Over this cow about it OK, it's.
00:49:11
Spielberg being attached. Gosh, that's funny.
00:49:14
Spielberg did do Adventures of Tin Tin at one point, which also
00:49:18
feels kind of of a similar era of like comic strip characters,
00:49:22
so that's not a huge surprise. Well, I mean, even Indiana Jones
00:49:25
kind of falls into that. Like if you're looking at like
00:49:28
I've always heard him, I don't know the like the exact
00:49:31
terminology, but it was like like cereal.
00:49:37
Not like cereal, like the Frost Flakes with the Serge in it, but
00:49:39
like. You know, like, no, like, yeah,
00:49:44
like pulp, serial action, short films, I don't know what.
00:49:48
Right. Yeah, exactly.
00:49:49
Like that's, that's, you know, it was like they, they, they
00:49:53
kind of like homaged it even in like Toy Story, two people might
00:49:57
be familiar with like the the whole Woody's roundup where it
00:50:00
was like, oh, you know, Woody's going off the Cliff at the the
00:50:03
end of this episode. TuneIn next time to see what
00:50:05
happens. You know, it was just like,
00:50:06
that's kind of what it like Indiana Jones is homaging.
00:50:08
So that was kind of very much in Spielberg's wheelhouse.
00:50:12
I like that because you were annoyed, I I suggested you might
00:50:15
not have heard of Point Break. Now you're telling the audience,
00:50:17
maybe you've heard of Toy Story 2.
00:50:20
It's only got like a 99% on Rotten Tomatoes.
00:50:23
OK, if it had 100 then I'd. Assume you've seen it.
00:50:26
Now back to these much more popular film Dick Tracy.
00:50:29
DT1990 yeah, yeah. So again, the visual aesthetic
00:50:37
of the film, super consistent. They, the film makers knew that
00:50:40
going in, they had a lot of like kind of strict rules about
00:50:44
making the movie. There's a lot of like miniatures
00:50:49
and matte paintings and like bright primary colors.
00:50:54
I believe there was like a sort of self-imposed rule that they
00:50:59
only wanted to use like 7 colors in the movie because they're
00:51:04
trying to like as directly as possible homage these old comic
00:51:08
strips that had like limited resources.
00:51:11
Right, right, because we're like a colored print newspaper strip.
00:51:15
It probably had similar limitations or sorry, this might
00:51:18
not have been a newspaper comic, but it and I know what you're
00:51:21
saying though, like a short like nickel comic line thing that
00:51:23
they would do at the time. I could have been in the
00:51:26
newspaper, I don't know. I wasn't alive in the 1940s, so
00:51:28
I don't really know. What was going on?
00:51:31
I feel like we need somebody older than to talk about the
00:51:34
film. We would know.
00:51:36
I'm unqualified. I wasn't even alive in 1990 when
00:51:41
the movie came out, but the the cinematographer also mentioned
00:51:46
if you didn't even want to move the camera, like every shot is
00:51:51
static. There's like no camera movement
00:51:54
throughout the film because. No, it just sounds like he's
00:51:56
trying to get out of doing work. He was just like boss.
00:51:58
I think for the sake of the film, we don't even turn the
00:52:00
cameras on because. Shoot it wide and I'll be over
00:52:04
there. I'll be in my trailer, which I'm
00:52:06
not going to leave because I don't think Dick Tracy would
00:52:09
want me to. I don't think that's what they
00:52:10
would have done in the there wasn't a cinematographer in the
00:52:13
comics. So I mean, what do you want me
00:52:14
to do? Paycheck still very real, but
00:52:17
everything else I don't think we should do.
00:52:21
Like no funny business. Anyway, sorry, let's continue.
00:52:27
No. No, that's that's exactly
00:52:29
that's. It's weird that you knew that.
00:52:30
That's how that conversation. Went it's like this worked on
00:52:33
Spielberg. He made the movie, just nobody
00:52:35
saw it because we didn't turn the cameras on.
00:52:36
Didn't turn the cameras on. It was very avant-garde.
00:52:39
It was extremely cinematic. You would have loved it if you
00:52:44
could have seen it. If you could have seen it, OK,
00:52:48
So very, very faithful, very, very like self-imposed
00:52:52
restrictions in order to make it feel more authentic.
00:52:54
Do you think that all of that effort was worthwhile or just
00:52:58
kind of like unnecessary? I mean, I think it was
00:53:04
worthwhile. I I think this film has some
00:53:08
things going for it. It it has.
00:53:10
I said I was going to compare it to The Shadow.
00:53:13
The Shadow was a confusing mess. For the most part.
00:53:16
This movie is is very well structured it it has it's very
00:53:21
easy to follow. It has a script that works in a
00:53:28
very traditional three act structure, which like it is
00:53:33
oddly high praise I guess especially given the last movie
00:53:36
we talked about. This whole season, that's high
00:53:39
praise having like a good seriously structure.
00:53:42
Yeah, movies are bad actually, is my main conclusion.
00:53:46
Turns out, yeah, unfortunately, but yeah, this one, no, I was
00:53:51
like, OK, this is great. This is like I, I'm following
00:53:54
who these characters are. They're like motivations.
00:53:57
The story is moving at a good pace, but it has this overall
00:54:00
visual aesthetic that kind of puts it in its own category, its
00:54:05
own world. I guess it would be similar to
00:54:08
like a Sin City like it was that mostly black and white film.
00:54:15
That used like. Some like I think the only color
00:54:19
that they would use would be red or something like.
00:54:21
That you're think I'll tell you what you're thinking of
00:54:23
Schindler's List. Oh, Schindler's List.
00:54:25
That's right. That's.
00:54:27
Oh yeah, that's such a fun movie.
00:54:29
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the real double feature.
00:54:31
Tank Girl and that. Yeah.
00:54:34
No, no, no, yes. Sin City from the 2000s.
00:54:37
Actually, they told Steven Spielberg to make Dick Tracy and
00:54:39
he made Schindler's List. No like that.
00:54:42
He was like 7 colors. How about 1?
00:54:45
How about one? Turns out there was other stuff
00:54:47
going on in the 40s. What an absurd wide reaching
00:54:56
implication. Spielberg was doing research for
00:55:01
Dick Tracy that he was making without a camera and then
00:55:03
accident to World War 2 and was like wait a minute.
00:55:09
This doesn't look good. Guys did.
00:55:10
You know. About this.
00:55:11
In the 40s were not all good. Yeah, yeah, that's that watch
00:55:20
that he's talking about selling at the end.
00:55:21
That was a communicator watch. He's like, do you know I could
00:55:24
have saved more? Oh, such a specific poll for
00:55:32
children talking about the watch.
00:55:41
Liam Neeson, they're earning his Academy Award nomination.
00:55:45
Just going like I could have sold this communicator.
00:55:48
For. 50 more young ones to get them out of German, More young
00:55:53
legs. That's good that you brought it.
00:55:58
You brought it one step further. I thought we were done.
00:56:00
I thought we were done. But this keeps going.
00:56:06
I was going to say because they parody that scene in Seinfeld
00:56:09
specifically too. Oh yeah, yeah.
00:56:13
I won't get into it. We don't need to get.
00:56:14
Into the Seinfeld. Reference.
00:56:15
But series of asides. But it's very funny to me.
00:56:21
We'll bring it back. We'll bring it back to OK.
00:56:23
So. Downtown Dick Tracy.
00:56:26
Downtown Dick. Tracy OK, what is the is it?
00:56:30
Is the film structured as a detective mystery?
00:56:33
Is he trying to like, find somebody?
00:56:35
I assume so, yeah, He's he's no, he's trying to.
00:56:44
He's trying to bring down the mob.
00:56:47
OK, OK. And his main antagonist in this
00:56:52
film is played by Al Pacino. And it is Al Pacino in, again,
00:56:59
ridiculous prosthetics. And he is giving the most over
00:57:04
the top, like hammy performance. And at first I'm like, Oh my
00:57:10
gosh, this is so embarrassing. Like, what are you doing?
00:57:13
Like, I'm like, I thought your I thought your career took a
00:57:15
downturn way later than this, Al.
00:57:18
But. But as the movie goes on, I'm
00:57:21
like, no, you know what? Actually, he's killing this.
00:57:24
He's killing this. He's doing this exactly right.
00:57:27
And turns out he was nominated for an Academy Award for this
00:57:32
role for. Tracy.
00:57:34
For Dick Tracy, man downtown Dick he was.
00:57:39
That's not it. That's not what I call.
00:57:43
It is. It is, as it turns out.
00:57:46
Downtown Dicky T. Yeah, they just keep changing it
00:57:52
throughout the. Movie changing every time.
00:57:54
So he was, I assume, best supporting Actor nomination for
00:57:57
Al Pacino. Supporting.
00:57:58
Actor. Yeah, yeah.
00:58:00
That's. Crazy.
00:58:01
Yeah. And what's crazier, this movie,
00:58:04
the cast is, I feel like I always get into this.
00:58:07
I always get hung up on the cast, but it's interesting to
00:58:09
me. It's fun.
00:58:09
There's a lot of recognizable faces here.
00:58:13
The rest of this, the rest of the cast of this movie is great
00:58:15
too. Like he, he's giving a great
00:58:19
over the top performance. Madonna is in this film and she
00:58:24
actually gives a wonderful blah blah blah a wonderful
00:58:28
performance. That's a tongue tied.
00:58:32
I mean, that's not even the only one.
00:58:35
Isn't Madonna in A League of Their Own?
00:58:37
I. Think she is?
00:58:38
She's good, I. Think Madonna's a good actor?
00:58:40
Yeah, I think she was in Schindler's List too.
00:58:44
No, I found the Madonna dance number in the middle of
00:58:48
Schindler's List to be very ill placed.
00:58:50
It's a. Bit odd, should've gone at the
00:58:53
beginning. It's like Tank Girl, but yeah,
00:58:58
she even she there's like there was a lot of original music
00:59:01
written for this movie and she performs several songs that I
00:59:04
think one of the songs may have even won an Academy Award as
00:59:09
well. So wow, this was a yeah, yeah,
00:59:13
this this film high, high praise, high praise from the
00:59:17
Academy for downtown DT. But it was.
00:59:22
Downtown defensive tackle Dick Drake.
00:59:27
He's just, he's just listening to the plays in his watch.
00:59:30
You got to coach. Omaha, Omaha.
00:59:33
Just like stop. Just stop doing that.
00:59:36
Just stop. You're ruining everything.
00:59:39
But there was also like James Caan was in this movie for like
00:59:46
2 seconds. It was like a cameo because he's
00:59:49
in like 1 scene. He's one of the gangsters.
00:59:51
I don't remember if he had like a nickname or anything, but he's
00:59:55
in the movie, he has like 2 lines and then he just explodes
00:59:59
and I was like great, that's a rap on James.
01:00:02
That's a rap on Mexican. Your Academy Award is in the
01:00:05
mail. Yeah.
01:00:07
Exactly. Speaking of, Dustin Hoffman is
01:00:10
in this movie also giving a like really stupid performance.
01:00:15
Not not stupid in a good way. Like Al Pacino's comes like all
01:00:18
the way back around to being good.
01:00:19
Dustin Hoffman's is kind of just stupid.
01:00:21
Can I say that despite having no reason to think so, I I don't
01:00:27
like Dustin Hoffman as an actor overall.
01:00:29
This guy has won so many Academy Awards and has been in so many
01:00:33
acclaimed roles, but he was also in Sphere and I feel like that's
01:00:37
the real man. I feel like Sphere Hoffman is
01:00:39
the real Hoffman, and that's all I can see now when I hear his
01:00:42
name. Oh, I forgot about Sphere
01:00:44
Hoffman. Yeah, we also had two, two
01:00:49
people who I would have would have been very excited to see,
01:00:51
but I completely missed them in the movie.
01:00:52
I didn't even know they were there.
01:00:54
The late great Catherine O'Hara was in this movie.
01:00:57
Didn't see her, don't know where she was, but she was apparently
01:01:00
in the movie. I think she might have been in
01:01:03
that same scene with James Caan. I think it might have been like
01:01:05
a sort of intentional cameo. And just like a like a group of
01:01:10
cameos just for one scene. Yeah, possibly, but I really
01:01:15
could not tell you. That's my only guess as to where
01:01:17
she would have appeared in the movie.
01:01:19
Calm. Meany who, dude?
01:01:23
Dude, I swear, I swear to God, I was going to say when you
01:01:26
started saying like people I thought was in the movie, I was
01:01:28
like, well, it's Chief O'Brien in this movie.
01:01:30
Chief O'Brien isn't. This, I was going to guess Chief
01:01:32
O'Brien, if you've given me one guess, I want to say because
01:01:35
because he's been in other movies as like a gangster guy.
01:01:38
He was in some Nick Nolte movie as just like a rando gangster
01:01:42
guy. And so that was my first
01:01:43
thought. I can't believe that was.
01:01:44
Right. But I also missed him.
01:01:48
I could not tell you where he was in this movie.
01:01:51
I would have like, and I don't know if him and Catherine O'Hara
01:01:54
maybe were also in like heavy prosthetic and you just wouldn't
01:01:57
have even recognized them. I think in his case it wouldn't
01:02:00
have been like as a cameo. He was probably just a working
01:02:02
actor who. Because yeah, 1990, I mean,
01:02:05
that's that's probably not long before he got on Next
01:02:07
Generation. That's two Star Trek references
01:02:11
in one episode. We're we're doing great.
01:02:14
Yeah, that's, I mean we're almost at the minimum we we got.
01:02:20
Almost in our quota, yeah. Duh, that's.
01:02:24
Crazy. No one's going to believe me,
01:02:25
but I swear it was in my head while you were saying people who
01:02:27
showed up in the movie and I was like Cole Meanie, Chief O'Brien.
01:02:30
Obviously that's what I would have expected.
01:02:32
Yeah, DS9. Come on.
01:02:36
Yeah, last one too. Dick Van Dyke was in this movie,
01:02:39
which that's just fun. You know, He's also, he's
01:02:42
unfortunately very underutilized.
01:02:45
He's like the District Attorney, I think.
01:02:47
And he's kind of, you know, he's he's he's Harvey Dent.
01:02:51
We get Dick Van Harvey Dent. Dick Van 2 faced.
01:02:54
Dick Van 2 faced Dent and he this is just another like behind
01:03:00
the scenes thing. There's there's a scene he's
01:03:03
only really in a couple scenes, but he gets killed by like Al
01:03:06
Pacino and the gang like halfway through.
01:03:09
And I remember thinking this when I watched the scene, like
01:03:12
they shoot it wide because again, the DP was in his trailer
01:03:15
so. He did not want to go there.
01:03:17
He turned the camera on and he they were like, how's the
01:03:19
exposure? And he was like, I'm getting a
01:03:20
lot of exposure. I'm working on Dick Tracy.
01:03:22
And then he left. He's great crafty could be
01:03:25
better, but you know, we'll talk.
01:03:30
He's so this this scene is shot wide and they just they like
01:03:34
shoot Dick Van Dyke and he takes like a bump.
01:03:37
He like dives backwards basically and you see the whole
01:03:41
thing. It's clearly him and and I
01:03:43
remember watching it and I'm like, that looks like it really
01:03:45
hurt actually, because there's no like crash pad or anything
01:03:49
behind him. You know, he just like jumps
01:03:51
backwards. I think there's like a desk and
01:03:53
like a bed or something. And I was like, oh, that looked,
01:03:58
I mean, good for you Dick that, that looked rough.
01:04:00
And then I found out, like reading afterwards that he broke
01:04:02
his shoulder and doing that scene and I was like, wow, that
01:04:07
is commitment. Did you do you relate to that
01:04:11
scene as someone who just recently dislocated their own?
01:04:13
Shoulder, I was going to say, yeah, I mean, can't relate at
01:04:17
all. It's not like my arm is
01:04:18
currently in a sling as we speak.
01:04:20
Just like me. For real.
01:04:21
For real. Just like me, yeah I'm working
01:04:24
hurt but my boss here made me come in anyway.
01:04:27
I. Was like listen no days off
01:04:28
except for me I took like 2 weeks off to go on vacation but
01:04:31
other than that no days off. Said get your broke arm ass in
01:04:34
here and. Get down here and tell me
01:04:38
everything I want to know about Darkwing Dick Tracy.
01:04:41
Darkwing. Dick Tracy.
01:04:43
Yeah. What else do you want to know?
01:04:45
I. Mean yeah, I'm sold.
01:04:46
This movie sounds so much more fun.
01:04:48
I hope that this has been the levity for the audience that has
01:04:50
been for me. After talking about Tank Girl
01:04:52
for 40 minutes, this one sounds fun and nice.
01:04:57
Just just a good time. Yeah, I I won't even get too
01:05:01
much into the plot because it is pretty standard.
01:05:04
There's a fun reveal, I will say.
01:05:08
I mean, if you don't, if you don't mind me just spoiling the.
01:05:11
Whole lot of the film people, we've given them enough.
01:05:13
You can always skip ahead if you don't want to hear spoilers.
01:05:15
Totally, Yeah. So there's an interesting, I
01:05:19
guess, element that the film's really standard back and forth.
01:05:24
Dick Tracy's trying to catch the bad guy Al Pacino, but there's
01:05:27
like this kind of third character who's serving as like
01:05:32
a secondary antagonist who's like sometimes helping Dick
01:05:34
Tracy, sometimes helping out Pacino.
01:05:36
And it's like, this is actually kind of an interesting character
01:05:38
cuz I don't know what the heck they're up to, you know?
01:05:41
And there it's the character is no face cuz again, crazy
01:05:46
prosthetics out of everyone. This is just somebody who looks
01:05:49
like looks like Rorschach from Watchmen, just without the the
01:05:53
Rorschach part, you know? Well, it's like a question.
01:05:55
The original decent character that was who was because
01:05:59
Watchmen was going to have question and then they couldn't
01:06:01
get him so they made Rorschach. Fun fact.
01:06:03
That is a really fun fact. Thank you.
01:06:07
Had a lot of fun. It's like a roller coaster a
01:06:10
little bit. But yeah, so this character is
01:06:13
running around and it's revealed at the end of the movie that
01:06:18
that character is Madonna. It's the it's the other
01:06:22
character. She was playing.
01:06:22
She was playing like a singer in the movie who was kind of being
01:06:25
like held captive almost by Al Pacino.
01:06:28
And she was like this sort of femme fatale type character for
01:06:32
Dick Tracy. Because he he's, he has a
01:06:37
girlfriend in the movie who like kind of a running gag is that
01:06:40
he's trying to like propose to her throughout the whole movie.
01:06:42
But he like, you know, he's super brave in the face of
01:06:45
danger, but he's not brave enough to like, admit his
01:06:47
feelings for her. And, you know, there's some
01:06:50
tension between them because like, Madonna kisses him at one
01:06:53
point, she sees it and she tries to leave town.
01:06:55
And, you know, but yeah, it was like, it was like a fun reveal.
01:06:58
And again, I was reading, there's a lot of interesting,
01:07:02
like I enjoyed watching the movie.
01:07:04
And then there's a lot of interesting reading afterwards
01:07:07
about kind of how the movie came together and what happened
01:07:10
afterwards. And there was a fun bit where
01:07:14
this movie, much like The Shadow, both came after the
01:07:19
first live action Batman, the first Tim Burton Batman movie.
01:07:23
This, this movie, I think is the third movie you've had me watch
01:07:28
this season that Danny Elfman did the score for it.
01:07:31
Really. Because he did.
01:07:33
Which ones? I think he did super girl the
01:07:35
Shadow in this one. Well, there you go.
01:07:38
And in in the case of maybe all of them question mark, I think
01:07:43
they all, he got hired on all of those movies because of what he
01:07:45
did for Batman. Well, Supergirl came first,
01:07:48
right? Supergirl was 84.
01:07:50
Yeah, Yeah, totally. Yeah.
01:07:52
He might have gotten Batman because of Supergirl.
01:07:54
I don't know. That's true.
01:07:55
That's true. Yeah.
01:07:56
But he's he's very much in this like realm of like superhero
01:08:00
movies, but I mean, in Shadow and this it's like he just copy
01:08:04
and pasted like he was in his trailer with the DP, like he was
01:08:07
just like whatever. Leave.
01:08:09
You only get one trailer, Yeah. It's weird, it's really small in
01:08:13
here. It's like a torture tube.
01:08:17
Now OK Danny Elfman music, I mean even copy pasted Elfman
01:08:23
scores got to be great. Yeah.
01:08:25
No, it was. It was great.
01:08:26
It definitely set the tone that they were going for.
01:08:30
But I'm sorry, I was, I got sidetracked from the the earlier
01:08:33
point. I was trying to make the the
01:08:35
movie, much like the Shadow was they was a heavy, heavy
01:08:39
marketing push for it. You know, they wanted to make
01:08:42
like a bunch of action figures and market towards kids and
01:08:44
stuff like that. And I guess an interesting thing
01:08:47
was they released an action figure of no face, but you could
01:08:53
like take the mask off and it showed that it was Madonna.
01:08:56
So it was like, and these toys came out before the movie, so
01:08:59
it's like a big spoiler for the movie.
01:09:01
And so those toys because of that were like pulled off
01:09:05
shelves like almost right away. And now they've become like a
01:09:08
really rare collector's item because they were only sold
01:09:13
briefly and then pulled from the shelves.
01:09:16
So it's like some of them are out there and it's so it's not
01:09:18
rare if you can get like a no face Madonna action figure.
01:09:22
That is really specific. I like that.
01:09:25
Isn't that cool? That's just kind of a neat
01:09:26
little thing. Couple other things that I'll
01:09:29
highlight here. This was the last known use of
01:09:39
yellow screen, as opposed to blue or green screen for visual
01:09:43
effects in a movie, which was a process I was not familiar with.
01:09:47
It was yellow screen. Yeah.
01:09:50
Yeah, it it was. So it's 1990.
01:09:54
This is the last use of that as a way to superimpose images, you
01:09:59
know, to kind of layer two things on top of each other.
01:10:02
That's pretty ironic that you're trying to like, key out stuff
01:10:04
from a Dick Tracy movie with a yellow screen.
01:10:07
It's like be Honest Steve guys wearing all yellow all the time.
01:10:11
Kind of a problem. Really didn't think this
01:10:12
through. Wonder if the screen was blue
01:10:14
and then that guy invented it right there on the spot.
01:10:17
That's how he invented it, yeah. But yeah, that I thought that
01:10:22
was interesting. This is also like notably like
01:10:24
one of the last major studio blockbuster releases to feature
01:10:29
no CGI effects. They had the the blue screen to
01:10:32
superimpose to images, but there was no visual effects outside of
01:10:35
that. And it was also the first studio
01:10:41
film to use digital audio. So this is all very technical,
01:10:44
but I just find it very interesting because it's like
01:10:48
right at this precipice that we've talked about before in
01:10:51
terms of like a change in studio production filmmaking.
01:10:56
I'm trying to even, yeah, like I don't even know enough about
01:10:59
sound to really have a good grasp of the difference between
01:11:01
analog and digital audio recording.
01:11:04
Like I could conceptualize that obviously they what it would
01:11:07
turn into, but I'm like, what is analog audio recording?
01:11:10
What did that get recorded to Tapes?
01:11:15
Just one of those, one of those like monophone things where you
01:11:18
got to like crank it, you know? Man, that's just a weird moment
01:11:22
where I was like, I have no idea how any of that works.
01:11:26
I'm not super familiar with like audio technology myself, but I
01:11:30
was just reading up on, I believe it might have been
01:11:34
talking to Danny Elfman actually.
01:11:36
And he was talking about how much she hated digital audio and
01:11:40
he hated the shift to what they were doing and how how it
01:11:43
affected things like when you actually were watching the movie
01:11:46
in the theater. So it's, it's like I said, very
01:11:49
technical. But to me, I found it just
01:11:52
really intriguing how like it was like the last and also the
01:11:56
first of some things. And it was right when that kind
01:12:00
of change was happening to everything really going digital
01:12:04
and implementing these new production.
01:12:07
Yeah, I mean, it does seem like the whole movie we, we kept
01:12:10
joking about them, like imposing limitations.
01:12:12
But if anything, that's the film makers like flexing their
01:12:16
abilities to craft a very particular kind of image.
01:12:20
Like you don't do that kind of thing unless you have kind of
01:12:22
complete mastery over of all of it works, or else you just can't
01:12:25
get by with those limitations. So I feel like it's a it's an
01:12:29
impressive film on a technical level, in vain in many ways.
01:12:32
Yeah, no, absolutely. It's just, I think it totally
01:12:35
succeeded in what it set out to do, in having a very, very
01:12:40
distinct visual style. It's it's like I said, it's
01:12:44
like, what if the shadow was OK? What if?
01:12:46
The Shadow. Doesn't not good, OK.
01:12:49
Just OK, it's, it's, it's like it's, it's fine, you know, it's
01:12:54
entertaining. It's kind of like standard, very
01:12:57
boilerplate storytelling in a way.
01:12:59
But it has that aesthetic that is unique and familiar because
01:13:05
of all the other things I've mentioned where people have
01:13:07
probably seen it before, and most famously in things like
01:13:10
Batman. Yeah, it's like, especially
01:13:14
given the first half of this episode tonight, I'm all down
01:13:17
for boilerplate. Boilerplate is good.
01:13:19
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's it's exactly.
01:13:22
I was like, I wasn't, you know, this will lead into my score for
01:13:25
the movie, but I was like, I feel somewhat indifferent about
01:13:29
this, but I'm not mad. This.
01:13:30
Is just a movie this is just a movie going experience I can I
01:13:34
can eat my popcorn it's. OK, popcorn, because you're not
01:13:37
busy having a cow. Last thing I'll say that I that
01:13:43
I liked reading about was also to promote this movie and this
01:13:49
feels very this almost feels like how they would release like
01:13:54
short films in conjunction with other things.
01:13:57
This is sort of an old like theatrical release model.
01:14:01
They made a new Roger Rabbit short like animated short To Air
01:14:08
Like or to be screened exclusively before Dick Tracy if
01:14:12
you want to go see the movie in theaters.
01:14:14
Really, I was like, that's great, that doesn't play more.
01:14:17
Roger Rabbit out there. If you play the movie on
01:14:20
streaming, it doesn't include that part.
01:14:22
No, no, no, no, no. I I I watched it.
01:14:24
I on I think one of those services we have to rent it and
01:14:27
that's not part of it at all. I I I, I think too, I remember
01:14:31
reading there was like the whole media releases of this movie
01:14:35
were very sparse. I don't I don't think it even
01:14:36
came on the DVDI think you can find the short online, but
01:14:40
you're not going to find it paired with I found a trailer I
01:14:44
like. I went on YouTube and I found a
01:14:45
trailer that was like because I typed in the name of that Roger
01:14:47
Rabbit short and it was like a trailer for like, you know, see
01:14:51
Dick Tracy and also exclusively see this Roger Rabbit like
01:14:55
animated feature before. Yeah, that's fun.
01:14:59
I do think that is a a lost art. Reminds me of the a lot of the
01:15:04
like late 90s early 2000s Disney Pixar films had little animated
01:15:07
shorts at the. Beginning.
01:15:08
Yes, exactly. Yeah, it's exactly like that,
01:15:10
yeah. It's such a cool little.
01:15:12
Touch Like for instance, you might have heard of this movie
01:15:15
called Toy Story 2. They did make a second one, I
01:15:19
don't know if people knew that but there was 2 and maybe more.
01:15:22
And maybe three more. OK, cool, I I'm sold on Dick
01:15:31
Tracy. I might go watch it just to
01:15:33
cheer myself up. Yeah, no, it's, I think you
01:15:36
would like it. I I think you would enjoy it not
01:15:41
be over the moon, but if yeah, exactly.
01:15:44
If you need if you need something to cleanse your palate
01:15:46
from tech girl, Dick Tracy would be perfect.
01:15:51
Just a just a bit of DT when you're on the DL.
01:15:54
Just yeah. What?
01:16:02
OK, right, that was a fun conversation about Dick Tracy.
01:16:05
Definitely pick me up after the first half of the show, which is
01:16:09
bumming me out. So we now move into final scores
01:16:12
and wrap up. And as a reminder for everybody,
01:16:14
this is the last episode in our Forgotten Superheroes season.
01:16:17
So after we give scores for these individual movie picks, we
01:16:20
can see who cumulatively had the better picks and is the winner
01:16:24
of the whole season. I mean, I'm, I'm optimistic, I
01:16:28
feel like. Dude, Tank girl is sailing in 10
01:16:31
out of 10 Tank girl. I guess I do have to start
01:16:35
because I went first for the review.
01:16:37
I don't know what to make of tank girl.
01:16:39
Like, I can tell based on the original comic source material
01:16:45
and what the director had said, that they were trying to make
01:16:47
something that actually had kind of a message to it.
01:16:51
And I think that that message was lost both because of the
01:16:54
studio meddling that made them, like, soften the edges of only
01:16:57
some of it and not the rest. But I also think that even if
01:17:00
they made exactly what they wanted, it just would not have
01:17:02
landed for a number of reasons. Like the tone of the movie was
01:17:07
lopsided from the beginning and it was too like silly and cutesy
01:17:12
at points to also have such like oddly disturbing imagery in it.
01:17:19
Not like what was shown on screen was that disturbing, but
01:17:21
just like conceptually upsetting material.
01:17:25
And I just, I don't know, I think it was ill conceived.
01:17:28
This is how I would describe the whole movie.
01:17:30
Yeah. Oh, sure.
01:17:31
Absolutely. I.
01:17:32
Mean it. Sounded very dour.
01:17:35
And I just felt bad watching it, like it was not ever fun.
01:17:40
And it it almost felt worse that in the second-half they tried to
01:17:43
like, pick up everything because once those goofy furries show
01:17:46
up, they're acting all silly furries.
01:17:50
There's a line in there I forgot to mention that I thought was a
01:17:52
joke where they're talking to the rippers who are just these
01:17:57
like goofy animal guys. And their lore is a little
01:18:00
confusing because they imply that they were an experiment
01:18:02
gone wrong where they tried to fuse humans with like animal
01:18:04
DNA. But then they also all at one
01:18:06
point say they have been reincarnated.
01:18:09
So I'm like, were you dead bodies that they tried to fuse
01:18:11
with animal DNA? Like, how does that work?
01:18:15
But they asked him, like, what they used to do before the
01:18:17
experiments. And then they turned to Ice T,
01:18:20
who's like the grumpy one. And they're like, well, what did
01:18:22
you used to be? And he said, I was a cop.
01:18:23
I was like, is that a Law and Order joke?
01:18:26
It turns out the movie came out before he started on Law and
01:18:29
Order. So I was like, oh, that was just
01:18:30
like a fortuitous joke. What fortuitous circumstance
01:18:34
through this. Yeah, check out our unrecorded
01:18:40
45 minute conversation this morning about the Pirates of the
01:18:43
Caribbean movies for more on that.
01:18:44
You see, we didn't record it because we were trying to be
01:18:49
authentic to the original material, like Dick Tracy.
01:18:52
Like, exactly like Steven. Steven Spielberg likes to do it,
01:18:55
you know. Spielberg was in.
01:18:56
He blocked the whole thing. And then he was like, all right,
01:18:58
turn those cameras off and go home.
01:19:02
That's how film. Making's done, so Tank Girl,
01:19:05
like, I don't have good things to say, but I'm worried about
01:19:09
being too harsh because I think the movie was going for
01:19:11
something and I want to give it credit for that.
01:19:15
Even so, Tank Girls, Tank Girls A2 out of 10, it's just totally
01:19:20
Tank Girl bombed. Why are you excited about this?
01:19:29
I don't know. I don't know why I did that.
01:19:31
It was just such an unexpected 2.
01:19:34
It's only the second time in this podcast that we've given
01:19:36
something that low of a score, the other one being Hoffman's
01:19:40
fear, which may be more frustrated than Tank Girl did
01:19:44
because it was just like, so tedious to watch.
01:19:46
But Tank Girl, I think just, like, should not be seen.
01:19:49
I think we are worse off for it being here.
01:19:54
Yeah, yeah, it's a big two. It's a big 2 / 2 two two.
01:19:59
That's almost a one. Which is first place over to
01:20:02
Dick Tracy? Oh, you're right.
01:20:04
It's like golf scores. You just flip it backwards.
01:20:06
Did we not mention we're doing golf scores?
01:20:08
Golf scores this season. That's been my strategy,
01:20:10
actually. So I've been recommending bad
01:20:13
movies. All right, Yeah, over to you,
01:20:16
Dick Tracy. I'm going to guess better than
01:20:18
A2. Yeah, definitely, definitely
01:20:21
better than A2. Dick Tracy was just a very movie
01:20:29
movie. It was a it was a movie
01:20:32
experience. You know what watching a movie
01:20:34
is like? It was like that.
01:20:36
I don't because I was watching Tank Girl but I would like to.
01:20:38
I'm sorry. Yeah.
01:20:39
Well, watch Dick Tracy and you'll kind of get a sense of
01:20:41
what a movie is. I'm.
01:20:45
I gave it A-77 for. Yeah.
01:20:49
I mean, like, I may have kind of even undersold it because I
01:20:53
didn't get too much into the story of the movie, but I think
01:20:57
I gave you maybe a good idea that it it's a pretty standard
01:21:03
narrative with a lot of stylistic flair and execution.
01:21:08
And I I think maybe unlike Tank Girl, it knew what it wanted to
01:21:14
be and it did that. So to me, very standard, like
01:21:20
didn't love it, but definitely didn't hate it falls into that,
01:21:24
you know, very middling range, which is like kind of between A6
01:21:28
and A7. But I'm I'm going to give it a
01:21:30
seven. It was it was a unique enough
01:21:31
experience. Yeah.
01:21:33
I feel like that is still high price.
01:21:36
Like anything that to make a movie even remotely good is very
01:21:39
difficult. So it's not like, you know,
01:21:42
it's, it's demeaning, something to say like, yeah, it's a six,
01:21:45
it's a 7. It's like, no, that's pretty
01:21:46
good, yeah. I, I would watch Dick Tracy
01:21:50
again. So I feel like that, you know,
01:21:52
that's says a lot, I think, yeah.
01:21:56
And I do like, I love that about this show.
01:21:58
Is that because of it, we're both watching stuff all the time
01:22:01
that we would never sit down for otherwise just because we didn't
01:22:06
know about it or like, it doesn't draw enough attention to
01:22:09
like, compel us to put it on. But at this point, we've talked
01:22:12
about like 30 movies between the two of us in these long form
01:22:14
reviews. And I'm like happy to have seen
01:22:16
all of them except for Sphere and Tank Girl.
01:22:23
Sphere. Sphere was worse though, right?
01:22:25
I mean. Sphere was worse because it was
01:22:28
a similar thing where the movie just like didn't come together
01:22:30
and was not finished. Tank Girl made me more upset but
01:22:36
Sphere I think made me more angry.
01:22:39
OK. That is, that is a distinction.
01:22:42
Angry versus upset, sphere versus Tank Girl.
01:22:45
It's going to be our like champion of champions match up
01:22:49
down the road. It's just like, which would be
01:22:50
worse? That would be fun at some point
01:22:53
if we did like a bracketed tournament with all these
01:22:55
movies, you know? That would be fun.
01:22:57
We are always looking for for like side content because I
01:22:59
think you and I have fun. We've seen so many movies that
01:23:02
because of the premise of the show, we don't talk about.
01:23:04
It's like movies we've never seen before.
01:23:07
So I like finding other ways to to rope in other stuff.
01:23:10
Yeah, I mean, check, check out our re Mem series.
01:23:13
Check out RE MEM, but we're trying to get RE Mem going as an
01:23:16
acronym so we don't have to say ranking every movie ever made
01:23:20
every time it comes up. So check out REMEM 2 available
01:23:23
now. We ranked eleven more films
01:23:25
randomly drawn out of a hat. Pretty funny.
01:23:28
I thought so. I thought so.
01:23:29
Yeah. All right, Frank, that brings us
01:23:32
to the end of this episode of Meet Your Double Feature.
01:23:34
But it's also the end of the season.
01:23:36
We have done 6 episodes now talking about forgotten
01:23:39
superhero films. And Are you ready to find out
01:23:42
who won the season overall? Oh man, you know, I mean like I
01:23:47
got my acceptance speech ready. I want to.
01:23:50
Thank your nominees are Al Pacino.
01:23:53
Al Pacino, best supporting actor for playing goofy mobster guy
01:23:57
whose name I don't remember in the movie.
01:24:01
I want to thank him. You're.
01:24:04
Giving up thanks while they're naming the nominees.
01:24:07
I'm like up on stage. It's like overlap.
01:24:11
They're playing the music too, to try and play me off.
01:24:14
While they're still naming the nominees, they're.
01:24:16
Like trying to play clips from the movies and they're like,
01:24:17
this is a great scene that got up there right now.
01:24:19
I should really check it out. I like that one.
01:24:21
I haven't seen this movie but that was pretty good.
01:24:25
Who's this guy in the front row? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:24:27
What's he want? What's his deal?
01:24:29
You don't recognize Al Pacino because he doesn't have.
01:24:32
The make up on him, yeah. All right, well, not to
01:24:36
disappoint you, but because I won today's episode for having
01:24:40
picked the movie that got the higher score, I also held on to
01:24:43
my lead for season 2. So after six episodes, 6 films,
01:24:47
each movies you selected Frank had a total score of 25, which
01:24:52
means on average they were getting less than a 5 out of 10.
01:24:57
Which is not our fault, all right?
01:24:59
We don't need your math in here. OK?
01:25:01
This is a movie review show. That's a good point.
01:25:04
None of us were good at STEM. My movies got a combined total
01:25:08
of 33, so it was actually really close until this episode.
01:25:11
We had quite a quite a stratification here because Dick
01:25:14
Tracy was better than even I thought it would have turned
01:25:16
out. Look, leave Trish Stratus out of
01:25:19
this too. OK, boy.
01:25:24
OK, so I listen. I don't feel good about it.
01:25:28
I don't feel good about the fact that I won by kind of a
01:25:31
landslide this time, especially because we didn't set up prizes.
01:25:35
Yeah, that's true. I, one of my friends who's been
01:25:39
listening to the show, he texted me recently and he was like, he
01:25:43
texted me and he was like, when are you going to watch the
01:25:45
prophecy movies? And I was like, oh Dang,
01:25:48
somebody's holding me accountable to that Season 1
01:25:50
wager that we made. Yeah, that if you weren't
01:25:53
listening, then at the end of Season 1 we said that whoever
01:25:56
lost had to watch the other 4 direct to video prophecy films.
01:26:01
And Frank, that is on you. But we haven't really done it
01:26:04
yet because we're trying to find a way to make it into content
01:26:06
that's not just me being like and then what happened and then
01:26:08
what happened. So I think I've got ideas for
01:26:13
that, which it'll come out later.
01:26:16
We haven't forgotten about it. But to be honest, there's not
01:26:18
enough people holding this accountable, so I don't feel a
01:26:20
big hurry. We.
01:26:23
Will get there, yeah. Let us know in the comments if
01:26:25
you're really waiting to hear about Prophecy 2 through 5.
01:26:29
It's important lore for the show.
01:26:31
And we will, we will come back to it.
01:26:32
It's like, it's like one piece. You just got to wait like 20
01:26:35
years for it to come back around.
01:26:37
Yeah. Takes 20 years and at the end
01:26:39
you're like, I guess we're so back.
01:26:41
I don't know if we're back. I've forgotten where we were I.
01:26:44
Don't know if anybody wanted this in the 1st place, but here
01:26:47
we are. OK, well that wraps us up for
01:26:50
Season 2. We have not yet announced the
01:26:53
premise for season 3 and part of the reason is because we have
01:26:56
not finalized the premise for season 3.
01:26:59
So this is a good chance I haven't even thought.
01:27:01
Well OK, I've thought about it, but.
01:27:05
I, I just show up. I just do what he tells me to.
01:27:07
Frank shows up, turns the camera off and goes back to his
01:27:09
trailer. That's what we're an audio only
01:27:11
show. So I think what we'll do, we
01:27:13
have some supplemental content coming out in our next pair of
01:27:16
episodes. We have another ranking.
01:27:18
Every movie ever made. Another remem coming up soon as
01:27:21
well as a new bonus series that I want to kick off that Frank
01:27:25
you and I are going to record soon.
01:27:27
I'll say right now it has something to do with a childhood
01:27:30
favorite film of ours. What are the live action?
01:27:33
No, we're going to be doing a special episode about the live
01:27:41
action Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movies because we've
01:27:44
seen them 600 times and I had an I had an angle to talk about
01:27:47
those from. So we're going to come out with
01:27:48
that soon, and then probably in another month and 1/2 or so,
01:27:52
we'll start Season 3. And what that means is that you,
01:27:55
the audience, can help us decide what our premise is for the next
01:27:58
season. So if you've been listening
01:27:59
along, you have an idea, a type of film you want us to talk
01:28:02
about, let us know. Leave it in the comments.
01:28:04
Text Frank directly, whatever you need to do.
01:28:06
I'm going to put his phone number on screen now.
01:28:11
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Throw that up there.
01:28:13
Make a part of the animated sequence that we'll.
01:28:15
Have Oh, that's right. We have to have an animated
01:28:16
sequence to end the movie. Oh boy.
01:28:20
Or not in the movie, in the podcast.
01:28:21
Yeah. So now we're going to do 5
01:28:22
minutes of our animated podcast outro.
01:28:26
And if you don't happen to see it.
01:28:29
It's on you. It's on you, I'm going to say.
01:28:31
You got to believe, all right? It's like Tinkerbell and.
01:28:33
Peter, clap kind of clap. Do believe in fairies.
01:28:38
OK, Frank, any, any closing thoughts about our superhero
01:28:42
season? It didn't go the way I thought
01:28:44
it would. It was really interesting that,
01:28:50
I mean, I guess, I guess I mean that in a good way too, because
01:28:54
we watched movies. I think they all fit that
01:28:57
criteria, which was kind of a big thing for at this at the
01:29:00
beginning. Like it's got to be a superhero
01:29:02
movie of some kind, or at least a comic book movie, That girl.
01:29:08
But I feel like we watched a really interesting variety,
01:29:11
which is almost like, or I should say always the most
01:29:14
important thing to me. I, I liked our first season a
01:29:17
lot because we were talking about 90s movies and that was
01:29:19
such a big pool to pull from. And I feel like we made this
01:29:23
season shorter because we had a narrower focus of what types of
01:29:26
movies we were going to talk about.
01:29:27
But it still got us a good spread of of different things.
01:29:31
So we talked about, I liked that some international films we got
01:29:33
to rope in some of our background in stuff like Power
01:29:36
Rangers, talking about tokasatsu films.
01:29:38
We talked about the, like, noir characters, a couple of, like,
01:29:41
regular superheroes, like Supergirl.
01:29:43
I think it was fun, yeah. Totally.
01:29:46
I enjoyed it. I'm looking forward to next
01:29:48
season. Once you tell me what that is,
01:29:49
I'll be here. Figure out what it is going to
01:29:53
be. As my arm heals, I'm sure he'll
01:29:56
be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:29:57
Ready to play again? Put me in couch Yeah.
01:30:02
Ranks injured reserve right now while we figure out Season 3 in
01:30:06
the meantime. Defensive tackle Dick Tracy in
01:30:08
my place. Defensive tackle Dick Tracy.
01:30:10
That's right. It's not big enough.
01:30:12
It's not big enough to be a TT. He's going to get bowled over.
01:30:14
What a loser. A loser.
01:30:18
Step on his dumb watch. OK, I'll do it for Season 2 of
01:30:26
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And then, Frank, you have one more update about your
01:30:58
independent feature, right? I do.
01:31:01
I'd forgotten about that. This man, Yeah.
01:31:04
Where do you go I'm. Just in the trailer, hanging out
01:31:09
with, you know, Stanny Elfman and.
01:31:11
Thinking out in the Elfman trailer, Thinking about nothing.
01:31:14
Just thinking about nothing to start off into space yeah.
01:31:17
So Nate and Mariah in Venice is currently streaming on Amazon
01:31:21
Prime Video and starting May 5th will also be available to watch
01:31:26
for free with ads with limited ad breaks on Tubi.
01:31:31
There you go, which is. Great.
01:31:32
I love fantastic big. Tubi fans here.
01:31:35
Big Tubi. Fans and I do think that looking
01:31:40
at our schedule, this will be out after May 5th.
01:31:42
So if you're hearing this episode, it is now available to
01:31:44
stream on Toby free with ads, which means that if you're
01:31:47
interested in the film, you can check it out.
01:31:49
No barrier to entry. Give it a watch, text Frank
01:31:51
directly. We're going to put his phone
01:31:52
number back on the screen. Let him know what you thought.
01:31:55
Please do. Yeah.
01:31:56
Please send me your reviews. You don't.
01:31:58
You don't even have to log into Toby.
01:32:00
That's the great thing. That's true.
01:32:01
No barrier to entry. It's right there, and there's
01:32:05
really only one movie on there worth watching.
01:32:07
But you know, it's a good app. You know it's funny.
01:32:10
Guess where I watch Tank Girl? Did you watch it on Tubey?
01:32:13
It was on Tubey all right. Let's go.
01:32:16
So skip over that. Do not watch Tank Girl please
01:32:19
watch Nate and Mariah in Venice independent feature film.
01:32:22
Franco produced and was the cinematographer on he he turned
01:32:25
the camera on. I did, I did remember to do
01:32:28
that. There was no studio involvement
01:32:30
in that one either, unless you know, you count us as, you know,
01:32:33
the the studio, in which case we were very involved.
01:32:36
So. Studio meddled in your own
01:32:38
production. Yeah.
01:32:43
All right. Well, that's exciting news.
01:32:45
Thank you so much for joining us.
01:32:46
And we will be back in two weeks.
01:32:48
We're not taking any time off, but we'll be back with some
01:32:49
supplemental content in two weeks.
01:32:51
Join us again in a couple more weeks and we'll be back with
01:32:54
Season 3. I don't I don't see the the
01:32:59
animation. I think I've I think I've lost
01:33:01
my child like innocence after hearing about Tank Girl.
01:33:18
Coming up next, it's a new episode of ranking every movie
01:33:22
ever made. Stay tuned for more, and thanks
01:33:25
for listening to Meet Your Double Feature.